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um all right yeah we're recording all

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right well hey

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this is another episode of ufo garage

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i'm gary i mean i'm ben

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and and i'm gary wait i'm joe i'm ben

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and i'm gary and i'm joe

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nope i'm gary yep that's gary and this

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is where we talk about ufos aliens and

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all things weird

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hey we just like to make things

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complicated you know so

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what's up gary how you doing today man

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and not too much

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just hollering in at you guys from

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catalina

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you know filming over here for an

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undisclosed

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so basically we won't be talking about

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that tonight right but uh yeah

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unfortunately you know nba and all that

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stuff you know

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yes yes but but you can give me your

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opinion

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on whether or not you think the secret

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space force is really part of the navy

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um it should be honestly all the forces

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should be part of the navy

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in my opinion

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so here sorry gary uh

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i was talking to joe before you came on

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and i was like dude i've got

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like rack in my brain about ideas for

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the t-shirt for uapx

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and i was like joe do you have any ideas

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and he just like popped out

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to tell gary your idea for the t-shirt

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so i'm thinking dude you'll have the

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right and everything's looking up at the

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sky and then there's a ufo underneath of

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your ship the whole time

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yeah that's actually not too bad of an

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idea

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just a little sketch i think that's it

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dude i don't know what you think

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hold on ah there we go i don't have all

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of you up

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yeah you should have us looking off the

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yeah yeah having it just hide in the

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back like looking out at us like

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pointing last night

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yeah yeah i thought it'd be funny if

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like a dolphin was driving the ufo

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underneath yeah so

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so we're halfway there for your that

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t-shirt design

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um has the uh the 25th episode aired yet

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that comes out this week i think this

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coming tuesday

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see how well that does that was really

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good that was an awesome episode for

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yeah guys if you haven't uh checked out

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um what if tomorrow podcast

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i have like like 20 podcast names in my

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head at all times

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if you're uh if you guys haven't checked

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out what if tomorrow podcast definitely

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uh go check those guys

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out they're doing some pretty awesome

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stuff we actually did a little link up

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episode

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with them uh bob and gary

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um so check that out it's gonna be

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coming out this tuesday it's gonna be

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pretty sweet

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yeah yeah you guys were pretty cool let

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that was fun i enjoy it yeah that was

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that was fun

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i was thinking this thing was gonna be a

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yeah i think because like all of us are

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like-minded when it comes to being

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open-minded about most things and

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know so there's something that links us

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so it went pretty smooth i i thought i

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thought it went pretty good

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surprised like yeah

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i was talking to william from uh bob

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podcast yeah bearded brothers uh and

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you guys already know this but just for

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listeners uh i was talking to william

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i was like dude you're so good at asking

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you probably know just as much as anyone

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that you're talking to but

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you ask really good questions oh yeah

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he's good man

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and micah too i loved how you were

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gary like poking it like hey micah what

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what's up dude well dude wasn't talking

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but when he does talk you you listen you

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oh yeah if you you're gonna run a

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you know but i i kind of like him to

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like kind of identify with him

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with the way that he thinks uh you know

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like when you have a million

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questions like sometimes we'll have a

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guest on and i'll think of

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something that i want to ask them and

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and then when they get there i

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completely forget to ask what like what

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well just like when you walk into uh you

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know walk into the kitchen to grab

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something you will literally forget what

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you wanted to get and get something

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different walk out and then come back in

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exactly man yeah

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exactly like have you has anybody seen

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like you're holding it yeah

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yeah man but yeah dude we got into some

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really interesting questions on that

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show um

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one thing i don't know gary if you can

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talk about it but we haven't even gone

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like the significance of and

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stop me if if i'm crossing the border

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but you did say that you're in catalina

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and we're talking about the catalina

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island off of the shore of

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california so for those people that are

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that don't know the significance of that

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place could you maybe speak to like

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why you guys like why someone would be

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in going there well back in 2004

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in double 04 uh they uh

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off the coast of this island that saw

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a bunch of little funny little

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tic-tac-shaped objects fly around

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yeah we were off the coast of catalina

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island when uh we actually tracked a lot

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all day long every locals has a

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every single i mean literally how it

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if you're here at least a month you're

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gonna see something

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it doesn't matter who you are what you

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believe you live here

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you will see something so it

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see ufos damn okay

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so catalina island when most people if

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they don't know what this is

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i think of oh it's a tiny little island

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that you have to take a ferry to and no

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one lives there and it's like there's a

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couple of resorts

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this sounds like it's i mean my wife's

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been there so i i know personally

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yeah first you don't know like it's huge

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right like people actually

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city right when you come in called

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over in a place called two harbors which

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two when you look at catalina there's a

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indentation with two

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two harbors at the northern side and in

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so that two harbors is a lot smaller but

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yeah so like it's it's it's significant

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like when you people think of island you

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think of like this desolate

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cattle there's buildings and

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infrastructures buffalo there's buffalo

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they own the whole island damn i didn't

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yeah that's crazy that sounds fresh dog

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his friends uh went to catalina

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for the weekend and camped on uh they

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were just like let's just go

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and camp somewhere and they just found

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like this spot

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off of the highway i don't know they

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walked they said they walked for a

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and they just camped and then they woke

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to like this rustling uh around their

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and all of them started to be like hey

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do you guys hear that

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so they go out like one like two dudes i

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there's like two tents and they went out

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and it turned out to be cattle like

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the buffalo yeah dude yeah sorry buffalo

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they roam wild straight across this

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i mean the whole island is just their

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refuge they just go wherever the hell

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you got want be and you got to be

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careful with them too i mean we had one

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charged through the set today oh damn

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like it actually almost

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i you i came close to getting

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trampled today

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and then there was that there was a lady

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that actually uh

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somebody uh somebody actually snatched

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her up before she went and she wished

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she she was running she didn't know

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where they were

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and he happened to see which way they

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were coming and she would have ran

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right into the damn things oh man yeah

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he snatched her up so that's crazy

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they've saved her life in that situation

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because these animals are like

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well over 500 to a thousand pounds

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they'll run you over you're done

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oh yeah and the game over yeah man those

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things will like flip your car

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and all kinds of stuff you're not even

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safe inside of your car sometimes

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yeah i'm gonna see if they can give me

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the clip of it but apparently they

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actually had me filmed

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where i realized that i was gonna get

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run over and i hauled out

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funniest thing they've seen in a long

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time yeah it's awesome

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that's awesome it was like comics it was

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there's like a i think there's a place

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like up in the arctic

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where like polar bears just roam around

305
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everywhere and they were saying that

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like nobody in the city

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ever locks their doors and it's like a

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public safety

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issue where like if you lock your doors

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somebody

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like runs into the chance of like

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getting eaten by polar bears so

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everybody leaves their doors

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unlocked at all times and everybody just

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is cool about it because they know like

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hey and they open outwards

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right because they can't be pushed in by

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a polar bear right yeah

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yeah outwards yeah yeah it's crazy those

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are all good ideas

321
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yeah you have to pull it smart man

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people

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you needed some privacy

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[Music]

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yeah right you're making some babies up

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there

327
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mike sorry to interrupt but

328
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polar bear sorry

329
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what can i say i just entered you gary

330
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i'll be out here as soon as polar bear

331
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leaves yeah

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i just pictured you like a drink in your

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hand gary like walking

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[Applause]

335
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here let me uh let me correct your form

336
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a little bit you're a little off yeah

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don't mind me see what you want to do

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with your hips is uh

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you're doing it all wrong oh man that

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would be weird

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that's uh north like that

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though uh the northern lights that's

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that's a phenomenon that's always

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intrigued me

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and it's on my bucket list to go up and

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see them i've kind of

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kind of seen them like far south like

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towards uh

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you can kind of see them down in like

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seattle area

351
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oh yeah not like but not like not like

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it is up north north so you know i want

353
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to go up north and like

354
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see the full sky going crazy

355
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with them

356
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dude yeah that would be awesome

357
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definitely a bucket list

358
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yeah you're definitely like take some

359
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shrooms and go up there

360
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oh my god dude and then a polar bear

361
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comes up

362
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with a with a drink in his hand he's

363
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like yeah man

364
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i remember my first round

365
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it's not a coke it's a ramen coke

366
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coke dude yeah you know with the coke

367
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the coca cola bears

368
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my grandma used to collect those things

369
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like they had like the collectible

370
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coca-cola stuff and it was almost

371
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christmas time they'd be list those

372
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polar bears some of those old ice

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chests and are you know actual the

374
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actual ones that they're in good

375
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condition

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are actually worth quite a bit of money

377
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yeah man thousands of dollars man

378
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i've got a dr pepper uh ice chest that's

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like

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from the 60s dude that's pretty

381
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dope i don't know if you're working

382
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i think the best ice chest ever made was

383
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that like that aluminum

384
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corona ice chest that you saw all over

385
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the place

386
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yeah everybody that has one it still has

387
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one and it's all beat the hell

388
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but the bottle opener's falling off but

389
00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:13,189
these guys knew what they were doing

390
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play it planned

391
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obsolescence obsolescence there's a term

392
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it's like when people make stuff they

393
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like make it to break in a certain

394
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amount of time

395
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like yeah that was built back in the 50s

396
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is like or 60s

397
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well back then they just built to

398
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build it they didn't ever

399
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if they broke they're like oh

400
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god no no no make that uh make that a

401
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bit better than that that's gonna

402
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break what the you thinking yeah

403
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now it's like

404
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uh interview it for five years so that

405
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they have to buy a new one

406
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yeah yeah or maybe

407
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make it like only only uh workable by

408
00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:50,560
this tiny little piece that's made out

409
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of like really shitty plastic and if

410
00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:53,040
that breaks yeah

411
00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:56,639
yeah yeah i'm gonna make your uh your

412
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shifting uh uh

413
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a little piece that connects all your

414
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shift your shifting uh cables with a

415
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nylon so that you have to buy a

416
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new one at sixty thousand miles and it's

417
00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:08,079
gonna be panning out you can't drive

418
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your car

419
00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:12,160
exactly i had a saturn where like there

420
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was like this little nylon piece

421
00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,959
that uh broke and it wasn't the pro

422
00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:20,720
clutch cable just this little piece and

423
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it's like son of a

424
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oh that sucks man there's this youtube

425
00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:26,720
channel that i watch

426
00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:28,800
and this dude like he goes and like

427
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finds like

428
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like he found like these lighters and

429
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stuff like on like old battlefields from

430
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like world war one

431
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and and like he'll just take all

432
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this old stuff and toys that he finds

433
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they're all rusted and like look like

434
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crap and like he restores them to like

435
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perfect condition

436
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it's just crazy like how good of

437
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condition

438
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and all that stuff is still in it's just

439
00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:51,600
got a little rust on it and it all still

440
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:52,079
works

441
00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:53,519
if there's enough material there you can

442
00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:54,720
definitely do that but some of that

443
00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:56,160
stuff's just getting rusted out

444
00:15:59,670 --> 00:15:57,759
yeah yeah i guarantee you just go right

445
00:16:02,310 --> 00:15:59,680
through it

446
00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:02,320
got like 5 000 videos that didn't work

447
00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:03,199
you got 50

448
00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:05,199
50 of the same lighter like two of them

449
00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:13,910
it works really it really is like 50 of

450
00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:15,040
them in all different shapes and he's

451
00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:16,639
just showing you

452
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:19,759
that right right hey

453
00:16:25,829 --> 00:16:23,360
real quick just to segue into uh an idea

454
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:25,839
that i've been thinking about is we're

455
00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:28,320
talking about playing obsolescence

456
00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:30,880
going back to something that uh and gary

457
00:16:34,829 --> 00:16:32,320
angio i mean i'd love to hear both of

458
00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:34,839
your thoughts about this

459
00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:37,920
um uh uh

460
00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:41,279
when the term yeah these ufo crafts that

461
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:42,320
have been found

462
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:44,880
are were a part of a an arc

463
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:46,959
archaeological dig

464
00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:49,920
uh bob lazar famous he said famously

465
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,639
said that on the joe rogan podcast

466
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,720
i for one think it was a freudian slip

467
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:56,480
he like didn't really want to say that

468
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:56,959
and like

469
00:17:01,110 --> 00:16:59,600
like but that's out in the open now do

470
00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:01,120
you guys like

471
00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:02,639
when you when you when you say

472
00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:04,959
archaeological dig and then oh like

473
00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:05,839
it works

474
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:08,720
does that mean it's it's it's so

475
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:09,600
advanced that

476
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,319
all you have to do is basically rub some

477
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:14,240
rust on it and it still works

478
00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:15,839
does that kind of fall on the same kind

479
00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:17,760
of idea

480
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:20,959
think that if something like that were

481
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:21,839
to happen

482
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:25,120
uh like with the tsar my personal

483
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:26,640
feeling is that

484
00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:29,440
you know like there's some truth to his

485
00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:30,240
story

486
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:33,440
and then he got wrapped up in the media

487
00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:34,480
height

488
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,559
and you know would get that because you

489
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:39,039
get that feeling sometimes like when you

490
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,400
when you're part of an event or

491
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:41,840
something like that you know it's like

492
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,960
when you've already said all the

493
00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,160
information you have

494
00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:47,039
people are kind of are you sure there's

495
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:49,039
nothing else

496
00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,840
yeah yeah that's it i'm

497
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,520
sorry what do you want me to say

498
00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:55,840
yeah that's how i am but you know i can

499
00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:57,280
see how like

500
00:18:00,710 --> 00:18:00,080
especially if you like the attention um

501
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:00,720
you know

502
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,640
you kind of might feel obligated to

503
00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:04,720
maybe embellish it a little bit or

504
00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:05,919
something like that

505
00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:08,320
it's just human human nature right like

506
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:10,320
i think in certain situations it is

507
00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:13,360
but yeah it's not helping this field to

508
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,000
do that

509
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:16,480
you know it's like it's just like when i

510
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:18,320
first went on the record about this

511
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:20,559
i told everything that i knew from my

512
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perspective

513
00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:24,080
without talking to anybody else now in

514
00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:25,120
my opinion

515
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:26,799
somebody on the boat told me that there

516
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,400
was an underwater you know

517
00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:30,160
we had an underwater track and then we

518
00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:31,679
tracked it under water

519
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:34,320
knots i mean somebody specifically told

520
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:35,200
me that

521
00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,240
and then come to find out that that

522
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:40,400
person

523
00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:42,080
i couldn't i couldn't verify it from

524
00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,679
that person he didn't want to talk about

525
00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:45,039
it yeah

526
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,799
he was like no i don't want to be a part

527
00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,880
of this

528
00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:50,720
and then talking with other people you

529
00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:52,400
know i could never substantiate i could

530
00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:52,799
never

531
00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:55,600
verify it personally so i went and

532
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:57,360
redacted i go look you know

533
00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:58,960
this was secondhand information that i

534
00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:00,799
got from another shipmate on board

535
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:02,640
i can't validate it i know it didn't

536
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:04,400
come from but i do know it didn't come

537
00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:06,160
from our ship

538
00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:08,400
because in order for us to track

539
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:09,760
something under the water like that we

540
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:10,000
have

541
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:15,840
thing it's like we call it the tail or

542
00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:17,280
you know it it

543
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,520
drags behind the ship and it has a bunch

544
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,520
of sonar buoys on it and that's how you

545
00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:23,039
we we track a bunch of stuff

546
00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:25,120
under the water and that's how we can

547
00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,480
determine speed and stuff like that

548
00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:28,160
because it's multiple sonar release you

549
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:29,120
know so

550
00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:31,520
cool but we didn't have our tail in the

551
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,799
water so it wasn't

552
00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:34,559
us that would have tracked it under the

553
00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:37,280
water so if we had tracks

554
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:40,559
they weren't coming from our ship so um

555
00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:41,919
that's the only thing that i could have

556
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:44,080
verified i can't verify that

557
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:45,440
none of the other ships didn't have

558
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:50,150
you know so i have no idea where the guy

559
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,760
got the information you know it was

560
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,039
relayed to me that way

561
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:55,280
and i related the same way i i got it

562
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,559
but you know i was just telling the

563
00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:58,160
story as i knew it at the time

564
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:01,200
and then yeah you know but i always had

565
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,559
but uh that's uh

566
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:04,799
so we ended up having to reject that and

567
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,000
ironically when when

568
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,640
i was on the history channel uh on the

569
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:10,880
unidentified episode they kind of

570
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:14,080
glazed over that and like right after i

571
00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:15,520
said you know told them about it because

572
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:16,960
they asked me about that i

573
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,120
said you know you know that's the caveat

574
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:20,799
with that is i can't i haven't been able

575
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,520
to verify

576
00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:23,280
whether that's actually true or not it's

577
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:25,039
not first-hand knowledge

578
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:27,840
it's not good tv yeah all that just

579
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,280
ended up on cutting room floor and they

580
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:31,039
just have me saying oh yes went

581
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:42,230
yeah so you know it was uh you know

582
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,679
that was the only thing about that

583
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:45,919
episode that i i personally

584
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:48,320
kind of didn't like but you know i

585
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,679
understand you know you got to make

586
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:51,120
they they're out to make money they're

587
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:52,880
not outside they're not to entertain

588
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,440
make money they and then the rest of

589
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:57,679
it's kind of

590
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:59,919
you know let's let's fit everything into

591
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:00,960
the narrative

592
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:03,840
yeah but but i'd say i'd say everything

593
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:05,840
else about that entire episode was spot

594
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:06,320
on

595
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,440
you know they made they didn't make me

596
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:09,520
look stupid so i was pretty happy

597
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:10,880
overall though

598
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,000
yeah so that's good man um

599
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,400
yeah so you said a lot of really

600
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,159
interesting things i want to hit on but

601
00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:20,240
joe i feel like you had you were gonna

602
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:21,919
hit on so i don't wanna

603
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:24,080
oh no i was just gonna ask you if you've

604
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:26,799
ever had catalina dressing

605
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:30,400
i have um it's pretty good

606
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:33,200
my favorite recipe for it is slice up

607
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:33,919
some big

608
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:36,960
fat steak tomatoes nice slices

609
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,200
thick slices put them onto a plate a

610
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,799
little bit of salt on top of that a

611
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:42,159
little catalina dressing

612
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:46,960
oh yeah especially in a hot summer day

613
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:49,760
it's really good i make this taco salad

614
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:50,400
with it

615
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:52,400
it's really good it's got like fritos

616
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:55,760
and like beans and lettuce

617
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,799
tomatoes and cheese the chili cheese

618
00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,720
fritos and that i bet you that would

619
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:01,840
step it up a notch

620
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:03,919
hell yeah hell yeah get me hungry what

621
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,320
the what what's catalina dressing bro

622
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,919
oh dude it's amazing you don't know what

623
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:10,000
catalina dressing is it's made from the

624
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,600
catalins

625
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,520
yeah i feel like you're about to tell me

626
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:15,280
it's like made out of uh like hot

627
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,200
freshly ground catalins

628
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:19,440
[Laughter]

629
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:21,039
a little bit of buff a little bit of

630
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:28,950
little mountain buffalo oysters oh yeah

631
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:32,000
oh my god my uncle

632
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:34,159
was was a jokester growing up and he had

633
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:35,280
me when i was like

634
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:41,520
seven or eight uh try turkey fries

635
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,720
i thought you were about to say mountain

636
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,960
oysters

637
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,280
well they were on the menu as well and

638
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:48,799
he said hey

639
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:51,039
he was like i was like seven or eight he

640
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,000
goes you can have

641
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:54,320
uh mountain oysters or turkey fries

642
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,360
which one sounds better

643
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,720
this is the only two things you can

644
00:23:02,149 --> 00:22:58,480
order and i'm like really

645
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,159
oh damn okay you just want to put nuts

646
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,870
but like i was so mad for like so long

647
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,360
now that i'm an uncle i'm like dude i

648
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:12,799
would totally do that

649
00:23:16,190 --> 00:23:15,679
oh yeah i had a niece i have a knee so i

650
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,200
couldn't do that

651
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:18,720
[Laughter]

652
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,390
but yeah dude like uh so back to like

653
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,799
we i feel like we're gary i think you're

654
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,480
about to say something

655
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:43,360
and maybe maybe it was like a personal

656
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:44,159
uh

657
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:49,760
maybe not going too far into like the

658
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:52,799
lazar story like your thoughts on

659
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:56,320
uh i don't know maybe it's a speculation

660
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,640
but

661
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,559
finding something as an ocular

662
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,720
archaeological dig

663
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:02,080
i think if it was advanced enough

664
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:03,520
technology that it really wouldn't

665
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,200
matter that it's old and

666
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,120
uh if as long as the power source was

667
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:09,760
viable and the circuitry wasn't corroded

668
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:13,279
it would still work yeah well now that

669
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:14,799
you say that it makes sense it's like i

670
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:15,279
mean that's

671
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,830
well it's a good thing you you right

672
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,960
here man exactly

673
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:24,480
exactly it was like i was going to say

674
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:26,559
it and then you said it and then

675
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,630
i totally agree dude like it's it's uh

676
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:34,799
it's what's that uh

677
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,679
uh matthew matthew darwin remember when

678
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:38,960
we had him on the show

679
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,919
yeah and he had talked about he was

680
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:43,919
hanging out with those drunk guys

681
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,200
and they told him about it

682
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,799
it was something that they were telling

683
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:50,960
him that there there was a

684
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:53,440
site where it's like out in this

685
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,240
mountain range

686
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,240
there's like a bunch of granite and

687
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,760
and it's bored out

688
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,000
and they're able to open it and put that

689
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,480
stuff in this granite mountain

690
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:04,720
and there's like christmas they were

691
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:05,919
sealing it off

692
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,520
stuff and put in there

693
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:11,279
and it might be because of the radiation

694
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:14,000
it puts off i mean

695
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,919
honestly look at jim look at look at

696
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:17,200
look at that jim uh

697
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,000
look at uh john burroughs you know he's

698
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:21,679
one of the very first veterans to get

699
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,320
100

700
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:24,720
disability due to direct contact with

701
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:25,760
the ufo

702
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,720
yeah um you know he got really sick a

703
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:30,480
lot of those guys did

704
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:34,159
um so maybe they were they were doing it

705
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:35,679
for a safety reason like

706
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:38,000
like okay this uh this reactor

707
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:39,360
whatever the it is it's like

708
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,240
leaking this

709
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:42,159
crazy poisonous let's just

710
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:49,029
well hold on i was gonna say uh didn't

711
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,880
didn't john mccain help him get that

712
00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:51,840
full

713
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,799
because yeah i think he had something to

714
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,880
do with it yeah i think he had to like

715
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,799
pull some strings because like he was

716
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,559
having a hard time nobody would listen

717
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,799
to him oh yeah he dude and i think

718
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:06,400
i know i know he got i know he got

719
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:09,840
political help to get it done

720
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,799
so it you know i i was never that close

721
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,480
and it always made me wonder if like

722
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,640
if mccain ever had his own experience

723
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:18,400
like once he heard about it he was like

724
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:20,960
you know what we need to we need to do

725
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:22,080
something about this

726
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,919
i feel like i've heard a story of mccain

727
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,000
being involved with some sort of siding

728
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,919
i've never heard any story about it but

729
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:29,679
i can definitely see

730
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,120
like with his attitude with the

731
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,039
environment and yeah

732
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,799
you know with the things that he has

733
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:36,400
said you know i can see

734
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:38,960
something in the truth in that because i

735
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,919
know like with myself it's just like

736
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,400
i'm not ever i've never been overly

737
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,240
concerned with like

738
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:48,480
farming or growing my own food or being

739
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,440
self-sufficient

740
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,679
or anything like that but lately you

741
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,760
know ever

742
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,000
you know as each year goes on i don't

743
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:57,600
know it's just getting older and wiser

744
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,080
but i

745
00:27:01,269 --> 00:27:00,640
definitely get i'm like now i'm like

746
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:01,279
hardcore

747
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,600
to permaculture and and wanting you know

748
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:05,120
i'm literally going to be starting to

749
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,080
film my entire property as i transform

750
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,240
it into this permaculture

751
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,799
property and you know once i once i get

752
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,240
the proof of concept and get all the

753
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,480
skills down to make this entire yard

754
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,559
this beautiful permaculture thing

755
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:20,559
and you know and uh because i you know

756
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,840
everything in florida's flat

757
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,760
i'm going to use like a raised cistern

758
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,880
system

759
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:27,039
and you know to collect rain water and

760
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:28,000
then

761
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,840
course i'm right on the canal so i can

762
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:33,440
use a little solar powered pump if i

763
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:34,080
don't have any

764
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:37,840
rain water that's good yeah oh yeah

765
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:40,960
joe went to school for this yeah uh

766
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:47,909
i had to uh there's certain people that

767
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:49,679
will teach classes on it

768
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:52,640
and so i went and got like a well i got

769
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:53,039
two

770
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:56,799
certifications in in permaculture and

771
00:28:01,029 --> 00:28:00,320
it's like a little over 200 hours or

772
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,039
something

773
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,600
i don't know wow yeah i got about that

774
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:05,440
in into studying on it

775
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,799
yeah it's it's like it's super cool man

776
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:09,679
i love that

777
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:10,960
let me put it this way the project when

778
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:13,919
i get home is to start uh

779
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:17,679
building a uh the double barrel biochar

780
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:21,440
uh maker yeah uh so i'm i wanna i wanna

781
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,080
try to uh

782
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:23,679
try my hand and they can buy a charge

783
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,440
it's like the one thing about eventually

784
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:27,039
i wanna start farming for myself and

785
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:27,840
quit my job

786
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:30,799
and being able to like provide a lot of

787
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,840
different products

788
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:33,840
from uh because eventually i want to buy

789
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,919
like uh you know maybe like an acre prop

790
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:37,120
piece of property

791
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:40,960
or maybe a couple of acres at least

792
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:44,399
and uh start doing it you know if i only

793
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:45,679
have

794
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,919
time and money to for one acre i'll

795
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,520
start doing like a quarter acre at a

796
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:50,880
time and then

797
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,120
once i've developed all my skill sets

798
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,640
you have already

799
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,559
i want to actually invite people to come

800
00:29:01,029 --> 00:28:58,399
onto the property and teach them

801
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:01,039
you know how to do it and then that way

802
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,799
so you could see the different stages of

803
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:04,640
the permaculture too by doing it oh

804
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,520
definitely

805
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:07,279
across the property so that i always

806
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,760
have a project going on

807
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,600
yeah and then you know and you like

808
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,600
free-range turkeys chickens and

809
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,600
like that throughout the property

810
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:18,080
yeah you know you'll probably find that

811
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,919
once you start putting the system

812
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,039
together

813
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:23,120
uh you'll probably start finding that

814
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:24,080
like

815
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,840
your head you think

816
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:30,000
that like you use all this space and

817
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:31,279
then when you start implementing

818
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:31,840
everything

819
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:34,880
you realize how compact and like

820
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,919
uh like very like i don't know just very

821
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,120
compact and like

822
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,919
very useful everything is it's it's it's

823
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,000
it's a really cool thing to do and

824
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:46,559
like it's almost like your surrounding

825
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:47,440
house

826
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:50,720
with like you know you could use like 30

827
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:53,679
40 feet on either side of your house and

828
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,000
like

829
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:56,159
literally in one acre you can produce

830
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:57,520
more nutrients than

831
00:30:01,029 --> 00:30:00,720
a 100 acre monoculture system you know

832
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:01,039
it's

833
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,190
yeah vertical too you know for people in

834
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,799
apartments and stuff like that but

835
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,480
you know if you try if you do some of

836
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,399
the aquaponics in these small ponds

837
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,640
too you know you do do a series of small

838
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,559
ponds i mean you could actually

839
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:21,360
grow your lettuces and your your

840
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,240
sometimes even

841
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:24,240
you know some of the root vegetables too

842
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,440
as long as it's not too

843
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,760
too deep but you know you can grow a lot

844
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:29,679
of stuff right in these little shallow

845
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,240
ponds

846
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,919
throughout your entire property and you

847
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:33,440
do that on a quarter acre without no

848
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,480
problem

849
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:35,520
you know if you want to go straight

850
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:38,000
hydroponics then you can produce enough

851
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:39,600
food for your whole family

852
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:42,880
i know man a couple of meters

853
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,840
i knew a guy i knew a guy who was trying

854
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:47,760
to grow these strawberries

855
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:50,320
and he was like man he was like happy

856
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:51,600
strawberries man

857
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:54,240
yeah well he had this he had this fish

858
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,039
tank

859
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,080
his little aquaponics setup and from the

860
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:01,200
the water in the fish tank he would pump

861
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:02,399
it

862
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:06,159
and he had these gutters on the

863
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:06,880
greenhouse

864
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,519
well he ended up lining lining it with

865
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:11,840
like lava rocks and then put like a

866
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:15,120
a husk from like coconut in there and he

867
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,559
planted the strawberries

868
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,200
up in the gutters and they were massive

869
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,799
and so he pumped this water that was

870
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:22,000
from his fish tank

871
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,840
up to the top and that's where it would

872
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:25,440
start and it would go through and it

873
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,960
would fertilize and water

874
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,720
all the strawberries and then it would

875
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,240
drip down and it would go into a

876
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:31,600
separate system that watered the

877
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,399
greenhouse

878
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,000
and then catch that water and it would

879
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,760
run back down into these filtration

880
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:36,799
tanks

881
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,000
and then go back down into the fish pond

882
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:41,600
and it was just so cool he was able to

883
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:44,960
use that water like four times before

884
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,279
went back to the fish pond you know yeah

885
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:49,200
that's pretty that's pretty badass

886
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,480
yeah that's definitely stuff that i

887
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,200
wanted to get into you too yeah um

888
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,960
the permaculture thing with the property

889
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:56,240
is kind of like

890
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:59,519
you know the the the second step

891
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,840
uh the garden with the raised flower

892
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,600
beds stuff like that

893
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,760
perfecting the growing skills and

894
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,840
perfecting how to how to build good soil

895
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,080
and compost and all that stuff

896
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:12,240
you know i mean it's sound i mean the

897
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:13,600
compost is like

898
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:16,240
the easiest thing to do but also the

899
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:17,919
easiest thing to screw up

900
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,039
it is it really is so you know

901
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:23,120
you know then you know like not all

902
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:24,320
green material

903
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:26,960
is made and not all brown material is

904
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,240
treated equally so

905
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,760
it's just like if you put sawdust a

906
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:31,360
bunch of sawdust in there and you put

907
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:33,200
way too much brown because sawdust has

908
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,320
got like a

909
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:37,519
ridiculous ratio versus

910
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,559
you know leaves yeah you know for carbon

911
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:43,200
you know and so it's like you get you

912
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,840
gotta you

913
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,120
definitely know what you're throwing in

914
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:48,240
there so in my in my compost i just made

915
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:48,640
was

916
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:52,399
uh all leafy greens and

917
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:55,519
just straight leaves yeah i just figured

918
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,960
for the simplest thing

919
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,880
and then for the first raised flower bed

920
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,960
that i that i built for my wife

921
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,640
she wants to grow some tomatoes here

922
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:04,000
soon um

923
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,279
what i did is i'd used

924
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,600
two by sixes and created a raised flower

925
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,720
bed

926
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:13,360
half halfway up pretty much with like

927
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:14,320
sticks

928
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:16,480
branches leaves stuff like that and then

929
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,760
i'm gonna when i get back

930
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,279
i'm actually gonna fill the rest with

931
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,200
compost that way i didn't have to fill

932
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:23,519
the entire box up with compost

933
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:26,080
yeah definitely that and then that'll

934
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:26,720
actually give it

935
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:29,519
new nutrients for later on and then i

936
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:31,200
put the compost on the top

937
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,320
throw another layer of leaves on top as

938
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,399
a you know just like or actually i think

939
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,480
i might just put pine needles on top

940
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,080
and then have her plant in that that

941
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:41,840
should that should

942
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:44,799
boom those tomatoes should taste good oh

943
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:45,279
yeah

944
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,440
the coolest thing dude like my favorite

945
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:50,159
thing about permaculture is that

946
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,519
like nature is your best teacher

947
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:56,320
you know like observing what's going on

948
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,200
around you

949
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,000
and seeing like how nature does it and

950
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:01,840
then just implementing that

951
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,840
on your whole system like the idea of

952
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:07,120
permaculture of like

953
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:10,480
high uh labor input

954
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:13,760
in the beginning to have almost zero

955
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,639
zero labor input like in the end yeah

956
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,079
now you see where i want to get to

957
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:21,040
it's just fascinating and if you just

958
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,079
let nature do

959
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:24,879
what it does naturally you don't have to

960
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,280
work

961
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,960
at it you go to the woods and it's doing

962
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:29,119
just fine without your help

963
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,359
you know so yeah mom's lungs are

964
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:33,200
overrated

965
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,399
a waste of space

966
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:40,000
unless you need a place unless you would

967
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,520
need a place for your kids

968
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,839
to like play i can understand that then

969
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:45,359
that's about the only thing i can think

970
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,639
of because like in the center of the

971
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,599
property

972
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,599
i'm going to actually build a playhouse

973
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,040
and it's going to be like a little a

974
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,200
little like park for my daughter

975
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,599
yeah you know and and then all around it

976
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:57,280
is going to be the permaculture

977
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:58,720
you know and i'm going to i'm going to

978
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:01,119
have the you know the race cistern

979
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:02,400
and then that's going to come down to a

980
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,480
small pond and i'm going to taper the

981
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:06,240
tape to the landscape to keep going down

982
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:08,000
and curve around my property so that it

983
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,880
goes around

984
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,480
so it doesn't disrupt the rest of the

985
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,920
rest of the things i want to do in the

986
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,720
property

987
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,160
yeah i only have a quarter acre that i'm

988
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,000
working with but you know it's

989
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,079
still going to work just yeah you can do

990
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:20,240
a lot you can do a lot with a quarter

991
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,960
acre

992
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,640
i mean you could literally feed your

993
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:24,480
family on a quarter acre

994
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:26,560
yeah yeah without it without a problem

995
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,520
at all

996
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,520
yeah yeah think about much stuff you

997
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:30,880
could teach your

998
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,160
daughter rather than like hey

999
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,000
there's a bunch of grass do you know

1000
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,750
well well the dream is eventually have a

1001
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:42,960
full functioning

1002
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:46,560
you know completely

1003
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:49,440
you know i guess to use the trendy word

1004
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:49,760
an

1005
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:53,760
hormones

1006
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:57,040
no you know no injecting

1007
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,720
anything in anything non-soy-based foods

1008
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:01,920
for you know because you still have to

1009
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:03,440
supplement your chickens you can't just

1010
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:04,240
eat

1011
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:07,280
grass unfortunately but yeah they gotta

1012
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,200
have some protein too

1013
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:11,359
yeah they don't get very big unless they

1014
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:12,560
you know

1015
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:17,599
in florida luckily we have a lot of bugs

1016
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:18,320
but

1017
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,160
you know still it's you know you're

1018
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:21,839
gonna be moving these coops around

1019
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:24,400
you know so and i'm gonna do that that

1020
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:25,359
technique where

1021
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,040
you know they have the the coops and

1022
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,720
then they actually move from place to

1023
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,320
place throughout the property so that

1024
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:31,599
you never have to worry about cleaning

1025
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,560
up the

1026
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,320
you never and the itself actually

1027
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:36,079
starts building up the soil

1028
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:37,280
you know if you really don't want it

1029
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,960
there then you can just i mean every day

1030
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:40,160
you're moving it so there's not really

1031
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,040
enough

1032
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,920
there to worry about you know so you

1033
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,119
know it's kind of like a

1034
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,119
and then they got a fresh place to graze

1035
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,880
and eat bugs and like that you

1036
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,160
throw out a little bit of

1037
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:52,560
you know maybe some corn or you know

1038
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,440
whatever you know

1039
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,440
some sunflower seeds you know whatever

1040
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:57,680
you want to you know

1041
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,920
get over uh one of the one of the

1042
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,680
biggest mistakes that people make with

1043
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:03,760
chickens and like their poultry

1044
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,800
in general is they think that you know

1045
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,640
the more that they crap the better that

1046
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,160
their soil is going to be

1047
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,760
but what happens with poultry is their

1048
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:13,680
crap is like really salty

1049
00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:16,000
so you actually end up like over salting

1050
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,839
the soil and drying it out

1051
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:19,839
so it's very important to move them you

1052
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:35,109
yes dude but uh yeah man i love the i

1053
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,240
love the permaculture

1054
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:39,200
system it's uh man it's it's so

1055
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,640
fascinating yeah

1056
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:42,960
yeah did you did you ever check out uh

1057
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:49,030
spot this fire was a survival podcast oh

1058
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:50,160
that podcast

1059
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,680
i haven't checked it out yet i haven't

1060
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,280
checked it out yeah this guy is

1061
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,040
this guy's on point with a lot of that

1062
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,720
stuff and like if you go

1063
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:00,000
to his uh if you go to

1064
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:04,000
because he uses uh what's that library

1065
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:08,800
uh app that's like it's it's like a

1066
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:12,240
no it's it's it's like a i linked it to

1067
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:13,599
you guys before it's like a

1068
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:17,520
a youtube style uh

1069
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:21,200
website but uh he's got a bunch of stuff

1070
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:21,760
up there

1071
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:24,560
uh and like tons of permaculture stuff

1072
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,760
tons of

1073
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,839
you know anything you could possibly

1074
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,119
ever want to know

1075
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,280
he's got resources right on his channel

1076
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:33,200
because he's literally

1077
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,160
given up the the corporate life where he

1078
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,400
was making good money to just go out he

1079
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,160
bought he got out of the city

1080
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,800
he got himself a farm going he sells

1081
00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:43,359
eggs

1082
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:46,240
he raises his livestock for poultry

1083
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,200
livestock

1084
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:50,160
i think it's i think his primary source

1085
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:51,119
is uh

1086
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,400
quail eggs oh that's cool so

1087
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,240
that's cool i know like on my property i

1088
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:57,520
want to do some ducks

1089
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:00,880
some quails maybe some guinea hens uh

1090
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:03,040
you know stuff that these guinea hens

1091
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,079
are

1092
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,880
hilarious by the way oh yeah and they

1093
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:08,160
have the best jokes

1094
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,680
yeah give me a second i gotta get a

1095
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:11,280
battery for my phone

1096
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,320
yeah go for it we went out to

1097
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,960
uh the what's the wine tasting place

1098
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,839
fredericksburg

1099
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,520
and there was guinea heads and they were

1100
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:22,000
like come up and like

1101
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,030
yeah my grandpa has a bunch of them

1102
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,359
yeah they're funny yeah they're they are

1103
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,599
annoying though too

1104
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,320
like how loud they are there's a lot if

1105
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:38,560
you have a lot of them it gets bad

1106
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:40,000
dude one of my one of my favorite

1107
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:41,920
stories is that story of the the

1108
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:42,640
fisherman

1109
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,400
is hanging out with his family

1110
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:49,040
and he's just catching some fish and the

1111
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,800
businessman says you know he's like hey

1112
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:52,160
you got a really good thing going on

1113
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,200
here he's like

1114
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,119
we should like partner up i can help you

1115
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,800
out the fisherman's like well why would

1116
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,040
i want to do that the businessman's like

1117
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,960
so that way you can make a lot of money

1118
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,560
you know you can sell all these fish

1119
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:04,160
you can start your own little business

1120
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,920
and then by the time you get really old

1121
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,040
you can retire

1122
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:09,119
and then you can just hang out here and

1123
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,800
be with your family and fish

1124
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,400
and the fisherman looks at him and he's

1125
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,359
like that's what i'm doing

1126
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,359
right now why would i want to do all

1127
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:18,720
that one

1128
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,839
yeah well i want to go through all that

1129
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,079
but i'm already doing that

1130
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,079
yeah that's that's that's the goal uh

1131
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,839
honestly the goal is to basically have

1132
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:29,599
the family out on the farm honestly i've

1133
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,640
got my

1134
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:33,040
a lot of my uh a lot of my family pretty

1135
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,119
excited about doing this

1136
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,240
you know and it's it's something that

1137
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,000
you know it means the world to me to be

1138
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:42,000
able to spend good quality time with my

1139
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,640
family

1140
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:44,720
and my you know my daughter and raise

1141
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,319
her in a good wholesome environment

1142
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:47,760
where she can learn

1143
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:50,079
practical skills on top of the

1144
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,960
that they're going to teach her in

1145
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:53,280
public school yeah and honestly i think

1146
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,480
the only reason i'm even gonna send her

1147
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:56,720
to public school for a little while

1148
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,520
i didn't need that ice cube but uh the

1149
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:00,800
only reason i'm even the center for the

1150
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,240
public school for a little while is just

1151
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:04,160
socializing so she can get some social

1152
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,440
interaction because she's

1153
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,520
my oldest daughter doesn't live with us

1154
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,960
and she doesn't really have

1155
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:11,040
a whole lot of interaction with siblings

1156
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,160
so

1157
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,240
um you know she's got cousins and stuff

1158
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,760
that come over all the time but

1159
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,440
it's not the same you know i want her to

1160
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,520
have some real social interaction

1161
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,760
you know have to deal with being picked

1162
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,720
on

1163
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,960
you know getting best friends you know

1164
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,240
the whole nine yards and you're not

1165
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,200
gonna do that with home school

1166
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:32,400
definitely not well dude i'm telling you

1167
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:32,880
man

1168
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,640
uh if uh if you ever want to

1169
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,880
leave florida or whatever you should

1170
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:40,319
come out to texas

1171
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:43,280
we'll go out to west texas we can buy

1172
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:43,680
like

1173
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,870
permaculture our asses off out there man

1174
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,480
was that jameson or what was that guy's

1175
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,079
name did the the the

1176
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:01,119
the oasis in the desert

1177
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,119
oh yeah uh uh uh jeff lawton

1178
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:08,240
lawton that's it yeah yeah yeah a lot of

1179
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:09,440
his techniques are the

1180
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,880
kind of the techniques that i'm i'm

1181
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,480
heavily relying on

1182
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,920
you know because the guy is just very

1183
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:15,680
practical you know it's like

1184
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,040
instead of worrying about like

1185
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,880
you know he goes and figures out what's

1186
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,960
wrong with the land and then figures out

1187
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,800
what can i do to make it better what

1188
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,280
what can i do to you know like

1189
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:30,720
uh you know his knowledge of like plants

1190
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:34,000
that will desalinate land uh you know

1191
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,280
plants that will

1192
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,440
uh bring certain type of nutrients to

1193
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,599
the to the to the ground around it

1194
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,599
you know the way you use arms to start

1195
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,599
saturating the ground with natural

1196
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:45,119
you know you know the natural occurring

1197
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,200
rainfall you know all those

1198
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,000
you know he's thought so deeply about

1199
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:51,680
exactly how to do that

1200
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,640
you know it impressed me to no end and

1201
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,000
years

1202
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:59,119
yeah and he when you look at it it's

1203
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:00,480
like yeah

1204
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:03,839
duh i mean duh but then you're like

1205
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:06,560
i would have never figured that out his

1206
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:07,680
knowledge on uh

1207
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,800
like microclimates is is fascinating

1208
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,680
dude like you don't

1209
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,839
ever think about a microclimate but like

1210
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,880
how important

1211
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,200
it is in certain situations especially

1212
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,720
like if you're like in a desert type

1213
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:20,880
situation a microclimate it's pretty

1214
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,599
important

1215
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,280
you know i mean you could be anywhere

1216
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,200
and it's really really important but

1217
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:27,520
it's just cool to be able to implement

1218
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:28,319
that

1219
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:31,599
like you know you you implement 20 micro

1220
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,880
climate spaces

1221
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:35,359
on your one acre space and you've you've

1222
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:36,480
created like

1223
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:39,440
20 different types of areas that you can

1224
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,000
do all

1225
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,240
kinds of stuff in you know most

1226
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:43,760
definitely because like i actually had

1227
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:44,720
this idea way

1228
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:47,599
before like i decided to do permaculture

1229
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,160
i was going to

1230
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,040
build a greenhouse right and have sub

1231
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,440
climates within that greenhouse because

1232
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:55,760
i love blueberries but growing a

1233
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,520
blueberry bush

1234
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,520
is a northern thing you know it needs a

1235
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,440
nice cool dry

1236
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,280
humid free environment to really produce

1237
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:05,680
really good tasting blueberries

1238
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:09,599
but you know here i am in sandy

1239
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:13,520
limestone iron

1240
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:14,560
clay

1241
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,280
florida yeah it's like yeah well

1242
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,960
and then so i had this idea to make a

1243
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:22,000
greenhouse with all these different

1244
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,520
microclimates i can grow whatever the

1245
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:25,280
hell i want kind of like a biodome type

1246
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,160
thing right

1247
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,359
yeah and uh and it was like that's

1248
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:31,200
actually where i got the idea

1249
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,800
i love that movie but uh

1250
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,079
uh you know the purple sticky punch

1251
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:40,240
yeah you know the idea of doing the

1252
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,200
permaculture

1253
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,160
was it grabbed me more because you know

1254
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:46,480
i saw what he was able to do with this

1255
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,000
this super salted horrible

1256
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,240
garbage land that have been over farmed

1257
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:54,000
and stripped of all of its nutrients

1258
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:55,359
it's basically just

1259
00:45:02,790 --> 00:44:58,480
silicate dirt that had no nothing in it

1260
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:02,800
yeah yeah turn it into an oasis dude

1261
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,119
like

1262
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,760
yeah dude it's amazing you know it's

1263
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,720
still going

1264
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,640
yeah i remember when you showed that to

1265
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:10,400
me joe like last year

1266
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:12,240
i i mean i'm still amazed every now and

1267
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,520
then i'll see them

1268
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,839
on facebook or something or or tick tock

1269
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:17,040
like this guy

1270
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,839
turned this desert into this amazing

1271
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,720
place and

1272
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,280
i was like that's gotta be a hoax and

1273
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:25,280
joe you were like no no it's

1274
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:27,760
possible it takes a really long time

1275
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:28,480
yeah takes

1276
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:32,240
money and time yeah you gotta remember

1277
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,200
this dude was

1278
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:35,760
that he's the pinnacle of this field so

1279
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:38,720
when he had backers it was moneybackers

1280
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:41,920
right you know so i mean we were talking

1281
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:44,240
about like uh it was sand

1282
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:47,839
sand yeah it was it was actually sand

1283
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:51,359
salted sand i mean there's like

1284
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,119
the worst day was the worst of the worst

1285
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,960
situation you could have to grow

1286
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:58,079
anything in yeah you know

1287
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,920
as i'm thinking about this and i'm just

1288
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:01,760
enjoying hearing you guys

1289
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,880
actually know what the hell you're

1290
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,800
talking about like i don't know i'm just

1291
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,920
enjoying listening

1292
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,920
but i had this idea and i don't know how

1293
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:10,240
much time we have left joe i know you

1294
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,520
yeah you got something i got another

1295
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,079
like 15 20. okay cool but i just

1296
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:16,240
i have this this this idea i want to put

1297
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:17,680
out there it's not a question it's just

1298
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:18,480
a thought

1299
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,599
but like i feel like you don't have to

1300
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:22,640
have an interest

1301
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:25,680
in uh the beyond to

1302
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,680
be interested in this that we're talking

1303
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,880
about right now this

1304
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,640
this is something i think everybody

1305
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:32,000
should do and

1306
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:33,280
if you're worried about whether you know

1307
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,880
what you're doing or not who gives a

1308
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,720
go throw some seeds in the ground

1309
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:39,200
yeah yeah you know because that's that

1310
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,640
we can even bring and

1311
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:42,240
bring in politics and i don't like to

1312
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,000
talk about politics but

1313
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,599
everybody's talking about sovereignty

1314
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,760
and being being uh you know

1315
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:49,440
liberty and being able to to have

1316
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:51,040
freedom what is

1317
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:55,040
more uh eligible for freedom than the

1318
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,480
fact that you can self-sustain

1319
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,359
and is it oh the one the one the one

1320
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,040
comment that jack spearkey

1321
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:03,280
said that like really kind of triggered

1322
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:04,160
me and

1323
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:06,240
i was like you know what it's

1324
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,200
right

1325
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:09,359
is if you don't like what the government

1326
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,560
does to you

1327
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,839
the best way to fight the government

1328
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:13,040
because you're not going to fight the

1329
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:13,680
government

1330
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,720
they're going to still do whatever the

1331
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:16,480
they want and then if you get in

1332
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:17,839
their way

1333
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:19,280
well who the is going to build a

1334
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,880
highway

1335
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,559
they're just going to run over you but

1336
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,079
the best way to fight the government

1337
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,040
is to not need them so if you don't need

1338
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,880
them for your food you don't need them

1339
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,079
for your meat you don't

1340
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,800
need them for your day-to-day substance

1341
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:34,880
other than just paying your tax land tax

1342
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:35,359
or i

1343
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,160
i like to call it the the rent from the

1344
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,000
government my property

1345
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:43,119
yeah that's what it is yeah yeah

1346
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,800
no no it's a homeowner no one's a

1347
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,240
homeowner man

1348
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,400
yeah no you don't own property united

1349
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,400
government

1350
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:52,240
well you know what we are paying for

1351
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,839
what's what's funny about that is that

1352
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:55,440
the government's not supposed to

1353
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:58,240
own land and that's not but they get

1354
00:48:01,109 --> 00:48:00,000
around that by saying it's just a tax on

1355
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,119
your land but you get

1356
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,800
if you don't pay it guess what happens

1357
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,640
yeah it's not like it's not i mean

1358
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,559
the best case scenario they throw a lien

1359
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:08,000
on the property and you can get to keep

1360
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:09,359
it but most of the time

1361
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,480
they're just going to sell it at an

1362
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:12,400
auction and you're asked out well that's

1363
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:12,880
that's

1364
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:16,319
massive military like you don't have to

1365
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:17,200
own

1366
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:19,839
you can just monopolize a territory

1367
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,680
through show of force

1368
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:24,240
oh yeah that's all it is that's all it

1369
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,720
is

1370
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,480
but yeah you're right the the less you

1371
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,800
need them that's the best way to

1372
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,839
possibly fight it

1373
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,920
and if you don't need the supermarket

1374
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,000
you don't need the mass media

1375
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:36,000
you know because like definitely don't

1376
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,670
he made a point that shy of them

1377
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,440
storming his property and telling him

1378
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:45,280
he's no longer free

1379
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,640
it doesn't really matter what what

1380
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:48,319
president's in office it doesn't matter

1381
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,359
their policies

1382
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:51,280
it doesn't matter anything because he is

1383
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:52,720
self-sustaining

1384
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,440
yep yep yes sir you don't have to get

1385
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,520
caught up in that

1386
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,800
yeah the government wouldn't want us to

1387
00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:00,400
be that way because they're going to be

1388
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,280
losing out on

1389
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,680
you know millions of dollars from you in

1390
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,880
your lifetime

1391
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,960
yeah if i'm if i'm over here and i got

1392
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,800
this organic farm and i'm going over to

1393
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:10,960
the organic beef farm and saying hey man

1394
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,720
i got all these uh you know you want

1395
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,400
some duck eggs or you know

1396
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,160
this is what i got you know what do you

1397
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,559
want to trade

1398
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,400
there's literally nothing illegal about

1399
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:22,160
doing that i can trade all the beef i

1400
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,839
want for all the

1401
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:26,000
poultry that they can handle and back

1402
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:27,119
and forth

1403
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,880
don't sell milk though because that is

1404
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:30,400
illegal apparently like

1405
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,680
it's missing it's illegal to sell

1406
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:36,000
unpasteurized milk it's not illegal to

1407
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:37,280
give it away though

1408
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,400
hey there you go this is like

1409
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,319
there's a lot of the gift of this

1410
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,000
beautiful freshly squeezed

1411
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:47,440
milk yeah you know it's

1412
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,200
would you like to give me a couple of

1413
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:54,630
yeah thank you for that gift sir i'll

1414
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:56,559
give you that you give me this that's

1415
00:50:00,069 --> 00:49:57,920
right that's right and we're not even

1416
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,079
bartering i'm giving him a gift

1417
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,800
that's right that sounds way more uh

1418
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,240
respectable than

1419
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:06,720
than oh i've got some bitcoin or

1420
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:08,559
i've got a piece of

1421
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:11,520
metal that people killed themselves to

1422
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:12,880
try to find

1423
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,640
that's the other thing though is you

1424
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,480
know you kind of scoff at that

1425
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,079
but everything's going to go to a

1426
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:19,839
digital currency guy i mean they're

1427
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,000
already talking about fedcoin

1428
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,599
that's a federal currency that they're

1429
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,760
getting i saw that i fully believe that

1430
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:27,440
i'm not i'm not talking at all i

1431
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,480
just think it's like right

1432
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:31,040
i've been rather i wouldn't i wouldn't

1433
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:32,800
say go down and sink you know

1434
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:35,280
ten thousand dollars into bitcoin but

1435
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:37,119
you know i would say at least look into

1436
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:38,079
it get to know it

1437
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:40,079
understand it get yourself a little wall

1438
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:41,359
and you know get yourself a digital

1439
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,319
wallet

1440
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:44,559
you know uh maybe buy a little bit use a

1441
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:45,440
little bit see

1442
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,480
see how viable it is and you'll notice

1443
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,559
that you know you can use it like

1444
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,400
anything else you know and then

1445
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,200
of course you know if you acquire it in

1446
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:57,119
a way that which is not recorded

1447
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,920
then they don't know what you have

1448
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:01,440
there's no way for them to track what

1449
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,480
you have

1450
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,079
you know if like you say you use you

1451
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:06,400
know that pirate coin

1452
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:09,119
or you know if you use ethernet or you

1453
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:10,000
know any of these

1454
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:13,599
coins like say i uh you know

1455
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,680
i put up a podcast and say hey you know

1456
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:17,520
you want to support my podcast you know

1457
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,280
you can give me

1458
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:21,359
i accept cryptocurrency let me know what

1459
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,559
you want to give me and

1460
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:24,640
i'll give you my link and then they can

1461
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,599
just send you send you some

1462
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,839
cryptocurrencies straight to your wallet

1463
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:29,760
there you mean transactions there but it

1464
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,280
doesn't know who's sending who

1465
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,920
what or how much it's just that they see

1466
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:36,000
that there's a transaction there

1467
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,599
you know there's no way there's no way

1468
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:39,200
to track that kind of currency which is

1469
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,040
why they don't really want to use it

1470
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:43,200
right i think that's where it's going

1471
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:44,559
for sure um

1472
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:48,559
i guess i in my gut i just feel like the

1473
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:49,599
better solution

1474
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:52,640
for humanity is to

1475
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,359
is to really look at like what what's

1476
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,040
the most valuable

1477
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,720
thing in your life i think it's time

1478
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:00,079
right like and and

1479
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,400
the for me yes the fruits of your time

1480
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:06,559
so what can you offer your fellow man is

1481
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:07,520
it information

1482
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:10,559
is it is it uh guidance it or is it a

1483
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:13,200
a physical thing like how do we equate

1484
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,559
that i think that is

1485
00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:16,559
man it's never going to happen but and

1486
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:18,000
i'd love to go back to the barter system

1487
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,920
[Music]

1488
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,599
well there's nothing stopping you man i

1489
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,599
mean honestly there's a lot of uh

1490
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:25,920
a lot of communities i mean in all kinds

1491
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,240
of places especially places like texas

1492
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,079
where you know you i mean you get on the

1493
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,000
thing you just you know garbage facebook

1494
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:33,839
and and just type in you know

1495
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:35,920
permaculture you know in austin

1496
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:38,640
you know and you'll just you see

1497
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,359
whatever

1498
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,119
pops up there i mean i i think in

1499
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,599
florida there's like 15 different groups

1500
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:45,440
for permaculture and they're constantly

1501
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,640
trading stuff like

1502
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:48,000
you know there's like i saw a lady on

1503
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:49,920
today's you got i got this specific type

1504
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,520
of a globby and i'm looking for these

1505
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,119
other guavas i've got

1506
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:55,520
15 ready ready to go in planners to

1507
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:56,640
trade you know

1508
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,400
yeah so there's a constant community for

1509
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,839
just about anything you want to do for

1510
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,119
the viruses

1511
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:05,680
one of the people that i that i uh i i

1512
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:06,720
studied with

1513
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:10,319
they they went to go help uh

1514
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:13,520
put in some some some beds for uh the

1515
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,000
next

1516
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,040
growing season and they traded them uh

1517
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:19,599
like a geodesic dome that they were able

1518
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:20,800
to put a tarp over

1519
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:23,119
and use for whatever purposes they

1520
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,640
wanted to use it for but they were

1521
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,240
always trading stuff like

1522
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:29,359
they would build yurts and just go and

1523
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,839
help

1524
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:31,200
people out and then they would trade

1525
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:32,640
them you got skill sets you know that's

1526
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,680
why i want to try to

1527
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:35,040
you know i want to perfect making the

1528
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:36,640
biochar so that i can sell that to the

1529
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:38,000
people that need to supplement

1530
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,599
there because not everybody needs

1531
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,280
biochar because i mean biochar is not

1532
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,119
good for every situation

1533
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,720
it's good for building soil in certain

1534
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:46,559
situations and certain

1535
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:48,000
certain vegetables you gotta you gotta

1536
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:49,520
do your research to see what it's good

1537
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:50,160
for

1538
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:52,480
but in general it's a good thing to have

1539
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:53,280
on hand

1540
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:56,000
for that purpose yeah um you know

1541
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:56,720
between that

1542
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:59,520
and some good compost you know so my

1543
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:01,280
compost that i make now is just gonna be

1544
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,559
for my own personal use

1545
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:04,480
but like once we get onto some property

1546
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:06,000
you know i'll probably have like six

1547
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:06,480
seven

1548
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:08,960
eight nine ten compost piles going at

1549
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:10,240
any one time

1550
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:13,119
just just to keep that rotating maybe

1551
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:13,680
even have

1552
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,160
excess to sell you know so selling

1553
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,680
compost selling biochar

1554
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:20,400
selling eggs selling livestock selling

1555
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:20,960
you know

1556
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,160
come in and you say yeah i want to

1557
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,480
eat some of your fresh loyal grace cheek

1558
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,160
chicken but i don't want to kill it

1559
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:30,160
all right well for an extra 10 bucks

1560
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:31,440
i'll slaughter it for you

1561
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,720
you know yeah throw in an extra five and

1562
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,559
i'll i'll even take feathers off

1563
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,200
for you know

1564
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:41,839
that's the worst part right well i think

1565
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,079
if you just put it with a hot water bath

1566
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:46,000
and then they just kind of come right

1567
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,119
out come out

1568
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:50,240
yeah yeah there's a whole there's a

1569
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:51,839
bunch of techniques for it i mean that's

1570
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:52,400
you know

1571
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,680
and that's what's up i think that's

1572
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:55,680
what's been exciting to me about this

1573
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,599
whole process because it's like every

1574
00:55:00,710 --> 00:55:00,160
everything that i run into there's like

1575
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:00,720
already

1576
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,040
so many established ways to make it and

1577
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,280
to make it you know you you just

1578
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:07,040
gotta learn them and for me you know

1579
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,640
that's like i love

1580
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,480
learning new things and this is

1581
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,880
something that i can learn that actually

1582
00:55:16,390 --> 00:55:14,880
will sustain me and my family will keep

1583
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:16,400
us healthy

1584
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:19,359
keep us happy you know tomorrow with

1585
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:20,640
solar flare hits and

1586
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,000
burns out the entire electrical grid i

1587
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,400
i have at least enough skill set to

1588
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:28,799
start planting and i have enough seeds

1589
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,839
to get us going you know so and and i

1590
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:32,799
know enough

1591
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,839
to not completely it up i may not

1592
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,839
have any of the phs right i mean i have

1593
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,440
the soil just right but i know what

1594
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:45,359
should go into a good

1595
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:47,760
i actually accidentally in the well

1596
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:55,349
well everybody got this terry died

1597
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:57,670
you restarted you didn't make it to

1598
00:56:03,030 --> 00:55:59,839
oregon

1599
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,040
but so just building off of that uh

1600
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:05,359
both of you i mean both yeah i feel like

1601
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:06,319
i'm just

1602
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,359
list listening to two you know

1603
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:11,440
very educated people on this topic talk

1604
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:13,359
and i'm like saying goofy but

1605
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:16,319
also i'm thinking like man you know as a

1606
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,040
as a

1607
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,160
a man in america in 2021

1608
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,799
i think i'm constantly looking for for

1609
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:23,839
ways to

1610
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,880
to feed that that

1611
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:29,359
i don't know that that deep-seated i

1612
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:30,640
want to

1613
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,520
provide and and i tell you what nothing

1614
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,119
will feed that more than

1615
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:37,280
walking up to a family member's house

1616
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:39,119
that's not your immediate family

1617
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,240
with a box full of food saying hey i had

1618
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,640
so much extra that i can even

1619
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:46,160
provide for your family

1620
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:49,839
yeah talk about confidence yeah yeah

1621
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:53,119
that's yeah that's that is that's

1622
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,440
swagger dude that is swagger right there

1623
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,119
and it's really cool because with

1624
00:57:02,549 --> 00:56:59,680
permaculture it's something that

1625
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,559
you never stop learning you know it's

1626
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,640
it's continuously learning

1627
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,640
something like i learned something new

1628
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,000
every single day

1629
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:10,799
uh just with your basic landscaping but

1630
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:12,079
you know it's it's it's

1631
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:15,280
uh yeah man you're always gonna learn

1632
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:17,680
something every day and and the whole

1633
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:18,559
thing is too

1634
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,799
is you know i run across this a lot is

1635
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:21,760
like

1636
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,599
it's a gardening is a science experiment

1637
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:27,200
that's all it is you're constantly

1638
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,079
experimenting

1639
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:29,760
and just because it worked here doesn't

1640
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,440
mean it's going to work here it's

1641
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,599
always you're always experimenting and

1642
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:35,040
you're always going to fail

1643
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,599
stuff's always going to die and stuff is

1644
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:39,520
always not going to go correct

1645
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:43,200
that's just the way it is yeah oh yeah

1646
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:46,480
my wife actually planted some uh

1647
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:49,119
a while ago and then she left them

1648
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,240
outside it's like

1649
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:52,240
cold out right now it's like in the

1650
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:54,640
50s it's not freezing yet so i mean

1651
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,760
but you know so they're never going to

1652
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,000
germinate outside inside and

1653
00:58:01,589 --> 00:58:00,000
start spraying them with some water and

1654
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,599
stuff and they finally just sprouted the

1655
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,200
other day you should have seen

1656
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:06,000
i mean honestly her face when she saw

1657
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:07,680
that she had sprouts guy

1658
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:09,920
i mean you can't replicate that kind of

1659
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:11,760
happiness like look

1660
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:15,280
i've grown something and it's like good

1661
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:17,359
you know and you know it's it's it's

1662
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,799
such a amazing

1663
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,240
feeling to get that first you know

1664
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:22,400
that's the first of the voorhees farms

1665
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:28,309
got a nice little roll off the tongue

1666
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,230
my original plan was to be dr vice

1667
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,280
vortis so

1668
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:39,119
but you know maybe someday i'll become a

1669
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:40,319
doctor

1670
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:43,440
so you're halfway true enough

1671
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:49,920
sure enough cheers you're overqualified

1672
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,319
heard that too many times

1673
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,240
and then when people ask you why you

1674
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:56,079
don't know something about science

1675
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:56,720
you're like

1676
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,119
well because i'm also a doctor so i had

1677
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:00,960
to like train doctor stuff

1678
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:10,549
yeah yeah it's kind of like this

1679
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:12,319
reflected that plane is really good at

1680
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:12,960
flying

1681
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:15,599
and a boat's really good at being a boat

1682
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,799
but playing boats

1683
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,960
not good at either but it can do both

1684
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,200
yeah

1685
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:23,760
exactly it sounds like something you'd

1686
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:26,720
find on catalina island

1687
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:34,069
yes oh my god that's awesome

1688
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,000
oh man that's so good that's so good

1689
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,319
hell yeah man well i feel like that's a

1690
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:41,680
good like

1691
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:44,880
full circle way to way to end you guys

1692
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:47,839
that was a good one man gary i'm so

1693
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:48,720
glad he called man

1694
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,680
i was like joe and i were just uh

1695
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:53,040
filming this thing for the the

1696
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:54,400
documentary and

1697
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:56,079
i was like i got it on film too it's

1698
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,000
gonna be kind of cool

1699
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:00,880
put it in the documentary i'm like hey

1700
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:02,240
uh

1701
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:05,599
we're just going so that was i'm glad

1702
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,480
you called man

1703
01:00:11,430 --> 01:00:08,640
it's awesome well you know i just we

1704
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:11,440
just got back from philbin and uh

1705
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:14,079
put the put the rum on the counter and i

1706
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:15,200
popped open facebook

1707
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:16,559
it's all that i'm like trying to figure

1708
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:18,079
out the time difference i'm like

1709
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:19,599
i'm like in the different time zone what

1710
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:20,079
what

1711
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:24,480
where they're at but

1712
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,760
they're like oh they haven't been

1713
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:27,200
on yet all right cool i'll call them see

1714
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:28,880
if he's see if he's done it yet

1715
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,920
oh yeah yeah man it's awesome

1716
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:33,359
definitely no i love coming out with you

1717
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,119
guys you guys are a trip so

1718
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:37,200
hell yeah and i love that we like just

1719
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,160
spent like

1720
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:40,079
a good amount of time talking about

1721
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:41,760
something that i feel like a lot of

1722
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:42,880
people would benefit

1723
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,079
from learning about well i think i think

1724
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:48,240
i think it directly ties into the

1725
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:49,599
subject to the simple fact

1726
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:52,480
that it seems to be a pretty popular

1727
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:52,960
amongst

1728
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:56,079
experiencers and with people that

1729
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:57,920
that seem to have had any type of

1730
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:59,200
contact

1731
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:00,960
that they have that that overwhelming

1732
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:02,960
desire to

1733
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,920
start to heal the planet and to do these

1734
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,280
types of things

1735
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,400
and like i'm all for technology except

1736
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:12,319
for technology that's destructive to the

1737
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:13,839
environment you know so

1738
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:15,920
if you can if we yeah we could be the

1739
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,359
most advanced civilization

1740
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,599
in the entire galaxy as long as we're

1741
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,359
not destroying what's around us

1742
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:23,440
you know so if you create a new

1743
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:24,799
microchip but

1744
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,839
it's the you know fastest bestest

1745
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:29,680
microchip that's ever been invented and

1746
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:30,319
it's gonna

1747
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:36,000
but the byproduct of making this one

1748
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:38,319
chip is that there's one chemical that

1749
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,480
if we let it get out it's going to

1750
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:42,160
destroy our entire environment like

1751
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,079
it'll destroy our whole planet

1752
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:46,400
yeah right now in our current situation

1753
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:47,280
we would still

1754
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:50,720
produce that chip absolutely yup

1755
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:53,040
we should we should figure out how to

1756
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:54,000
not

1757
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,599
predict we have the technology for the

1758
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:57,440
chip we need to figure out how to do it

1759
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:00,640
safely and then mass-produce it you know

1760
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,839
we should you know so i think that

1761
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:05,440
scientists need to be a hell of a lot

1762
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:06,720
more responsible with their

1763
01:02:10,710 --> 01:02:07,760
pharmaceuticals

1764
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,720
and production of all of our technology

1765
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:11,760
so that we can

1766
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:15,280
advance without destroying ourselves

1767
01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,960
absolutely so there's your ufo tie-in

1768
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:21,119
absolutely man yeah no that was

1769
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:22,640
beautiful i couldn't have said it better

1770
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:23,280
myself

1771
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:26,000
yeah seriously like i have nothing else

1772
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:26,799
to add to that

1773
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:30,480
because that is literally well then i

1774
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,319
i bid you a dude

1775
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,480
gary thank you so much brother man that

1776
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:38,559
it's always fun talking to you bro

1777
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:41,520
take it easy in touch don't be strangers

1778
01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:42,319
definitely man

1779
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:44,240
sounds good hey we'll make that t-shirt

1780
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:45,680
happen now that we we know you're on

1781
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,240
board

1782
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,319
all right i appreciate it it may end up

1783
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:50,319
being the only t-shirt that we ever have

1784
01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:53,440
but oh yeah

1785
01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:55,200
but yeah definitely looking forward to

1786
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:57,119
that i'll uh no matter what i'll at

1787
01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:57,440
least

1788
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:00,880
make one one production run of it yes

1789
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:04,079
yes yes bro and if not

1790
01:03:06,550 --> 01:03:05,280
i don't even care if everybody else

1791
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:06,560
hates it i'm still going to make it

1792
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:10,960
[Laughter]

1793
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:12,559
i i would i'm going to straight pimp

1794
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:32,630
serve you know answers in general so

1795
01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:36,240
so i decided so but yeah all right man

1796
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,760
good night guys hey you're my daughter

1797
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:39,440
it's important man get to it

1798
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:41,760
get on it sounds good man thanks thanks

1799
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,880
for taking some time with me i

1800
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:43,920
appreciate it no

1801
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,880
problem man dude any time

1802
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,319
we'll talk to you later brother all